In this conversation, I talk to Rev. Joseph Santos-Lyons, an organizer and minister. We explore the vision and intention behind Center for Organizing, Renewal, and Leadership (CORAL). We also discuss place and belonging and ways those service to others can be held in times of uncertainty and the unknown. To find out more about and to support The Center for Organizing, Renewal and Leadership (CORAL), please visit check out their website .

In this conversation, I talk to Kevin Lian, Co-Founder and Herbal Artist, of APOTHERIE. We explore the healing power of nature to help one reconnect with their true self. We also discuss what happens when you get to the "top" and you realize you don't like the view from up there. To find out more about and to support Kevin and his work at APOTHERIE, please visit check out their website.